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Show Notes: Compliance Unfiltered Year in Review
Quick Take
On this episode of Compliance Unfiltered, Adam and Todd look at the year that was. We hit the highlights and lowlights of the podcas’s first year, reminisce about the struggle of compliance in a COVID-affected world, and pick apart the rigors and benefits of creating a culture of compliance.
The guys also peek into their crystal ball to look ahead into the compliance future, with sneak peeks into upcoming episodes on CMMC 2.0, PCI 4.0, and Special Guest appearances on the 2022 horizon.
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Read The Transcript
So, let’s face it, managing compliance sucks, it’s complicated, it’s so hard to keep organized, and it requires a ton of expertise in order to survive the entire process. Welcome to Compliance Unfiltered, a podcast dedicated to making compliance suck less.
Now, here’s your host, Todd Coshow with Adam Goslin.
Well, welcome to another edition of Compliance Unfiltered. I’m Todd Coshow alongside the one, the only, the venerable compliance legend himself, Adam Goslin. Adam, how are you? Oh, I’m doing good, Todd. How’s things? Gosh, it’s an exciting time of year, lots going on. Well, I don’t know about you, but there are visions of sugar plums dancing through my children’s heads. I’m pretty sure the sugar plums just stomped right over me as they pass, type of thing, but hey, whatever. Yeah, I think as you get older, sugar plums become Amazon boxes. You know how it goes.
If you can’t tell for the listener out there, this is our end-of-the-year wrap-up show here on Compliance Unfiltered. And at the end of our first season together, I thought, well, Adam and I thought collectively, it would be worthwhile to share some of the highlights from Compliance Unfiltered, and from the compliance world in general here in 2021. And then, we’ll do a quick look ahead to what’s on the horizon for 2022.
So, Adam, what are your highlights in the compliance world for 2021? Well, I mean, there’s obviously all sorts of stuff going on, but certainly the rollout of CMMC has really shook things up in the compliance space. There’s just a ton of people in this arena that are affected by it, etc. So that coming into its own, it’s been fun watching that rollout.
The other big change in the compliance arena is we’ve been dealing with, not dealing with, but we’ve been living under PCI 3 point something for quite a long time now. And with the PCI Council heading toward PCI version 4.0, which is supposed to be soft released to those in the know early next year, and going public in March type of thing. So that’s going to be exciting to kind of watch what impacts happen there.
Certainly, COVID has been a resident thorn in the side of just about everybody, compliance world included. It’s been fun to deal with if you will. And the other thing, looking at the compliance space, the one thing that’s starting to warm my heart is that it seems like it’s taken quite a while for organizations to take the security and compliance stuff seriously. And, it’s good to see more and more organizations that are doing what they need to be doing, taking the responsibilities in this realm seriously, etc. So it’s been nice seeing that transition, if you will. Yeah, no, I definitely agree with that.
So let’s take a minute here to kind of recap what we’ve covered on Compliance Unfiltered for 2021. It’s been a journey. Yeah, no, it sure has. In the early days, I think the first episode was just the background of Adam’s story, and why were doing this, that type of thing. And, we also covered a broad range spectrum of different topics. So, we talked about PCI, consultants versus assessors, the benefits, drawbacks there. And navigating compliance in a post-COVID world. I’m going under the guiding assumption that we’d actually be past it at this point in the game, so there’s that.
An early episode on CMMC, we’ve actually got more updates on that a little bit later on this episode. Surviving risk assessments. All about SOC 2. Some of the lessons learned, of having to navigate organizations through what they should be doing for care, feeding, management, and maintenance of firewalls. What you don’t know is going to hurt you. Creating a culture of compliance in your organization. Starting a compliance program. As well as, talking at a high level about compliance management systems versus using spreadsheets. So, those are the highlights for things we did, and undertook in the 2021 arena.
So, Adam, I mean, there’s been a lot of fun lessons learned on both sides of the table over the course of this last year. But tell me some of the fun things that you learned in starting Compliance Unfiltered. Well, I mean, certainly one of the first things that I learned is that, what the listeners don’t know is that this happens to be round two of this. And, when Todd introduced this the last time, he says, oh, so Adam why don’t you tell me about all the things that you learned, while going through Compliance Unfiltered. I’m like, I think there was a lot of learning going on. So anyway, yeah, yeah, it was a valiant effort, though, but I’m going to bust you.
I mean, the one thing that we learned big time is that every single noise that’s made in the room you’re recording from goes out over the podcast. So, in the earlier episodes of Compliance Unfiltered, you can hear all sorts of things rhythmically clicking in the background. I’m a habitual fidgeter, and have been busted doing various things with fidget spinners and other things on my desk. So, that was certainly a learning experience. I like to call them the in-house motion alerts. Todd happens to have some. I happen to have some, a.k.a. our dogs. So, it’s like invariably you’re in the middle of recording, and especially this time of year, you’re getting the Amazon packages constantly hitting the front porch. And then of course, the helpful delivery person goes and rings the doorbell.
And of course, the motion alerts then have to clearly inform everyone in the household that, yeah, we’re under attack. So that’s fun.
The other one I learned specifically is, don’t sit in a squeaky chair. I have this chair, and as I would lean back, you’d hear squeaking coming over on the episode. So no, it’s been a lot of fun, kind of getting things figured out and what not.
Obviously, the earlier episodes that we did, going back and listening to them now, they certainly seem a lot more awkward. But, it’s really cool to see Compliance Unfiltered coming into its own, and us getting our sea legs, and learning from some of those past experiences. So, yeah, that was cool. And, you’re not alone with the background noise. I’m a habitual tapper of things, so those certainly came through in episodes along the way. We’ve gotten some really quality user feedback in terms of that, for which we are greatly appreciative. But I agree. This has been a lot of fun.
And with all that said Adam, let’s talk a little bit more about what’s next for Compliance Unfiltered. What’s on the horizon? Well, we actually have an awesome CMMC 2.0 piece that’s coming up, that was recently announced CMMC 2.0. And so, in fact, I think it’s our next podcast. So for those that are in and involved in CMC arena, that’s coming. And we talked a little bit earlier about the PCI V4, that’s supposed to come out in public release in March. We’re certainly going to be having a lot of conversations around the PCI arena. Compliance Unfiltered is going to be having some, I say, more guests, but I guess I’m cognizant of the fact that at least at this point in the game, in terms of our distribution, the listeners haven’t heard one guest yet. It’s you and I battling away. But on the CMMC 2.0 episode, we’ve got the product manager for TCT, coming on and talking a little bit about CMMC 2.0. So that was kind of the start of our guest appearances. And, we’ve got plans for a bunch more. We’re going to have various assessors come and join us for certain topics. Folks that I like to call applicants, or those people that are applying to be certified, and or subject to compliance. We’re going to get some applicants on with us as well, in addition to some service providers. So, here’s the big difference. This is the one thing that I want to make really super clear. They’re not coming on in the kind of sense where you feel like it’s a 30 to 45 minute advertisement for whoever the hell came on. But instead, what I want is, I want to have real conversations, just like you and I’ve been doing. Right. Real conversations, real discussion, real topics. I’m not interested in making it some type of a promotion, I hate that type of stuff. So, I’m not going to invoke the listeners, and make them subject to something along those lines. But, it should be fun as we start to branch out,and get guests on to talk about different topics. It’s always fun, especially in the security compliance space. It seems like everybody has an opinion. And so, it’ll be fun to get to hear the different takes, and different opinions folks have. So I’m looking forward to that.
We’re hoping for more face to face opportunities in 2022. We used to go and do onsite stuff numerous times a year. Certainly, outwardly facing, and a multitude of onsites with clients, customers, etc. And so, that was always fun. But, I guess we’ll have to see what COVID has in store. Honestly, I think myself and just about everybody else, who would have thought when we started locking down in March, April of 2020, that we’d be rounding out 2021 with some new doom and gloom scenario surrounding COVID. So, it’s been an exciting adventure so far. We’ll just have to kind of roll with it as rolls out. No doubt. No doubt. Well, I definitely think that in 2022 there’s light at the end of the tunnel, I think, in a lot of ways, specifically for Compliance Unfiltered, and for the Compliance Unfiltered listeners out there. I think that 2022 will definitely broaden horizons, and I’m excited for that.
Great first year Adam. What are some of the closing thoughts that that you have for us today, as we sunset 2021 and end our first season here on Compliance Unfiltered, and move in to the new year? Well, I mean, bottom line is, is that it’s been a ton of fun doing this, working together to get Compliance Unfiltered together off the ground, all the learning experiences and fun that we had there. So it was a really awesome first year, but we’ve got lots more to come. We’ve got big plans for Compliance Unfiltered as we go into 2022. Tons of cool topics to talk about, things that we can relay and relate to the listener. The one fun part about this particular podcast is that, we don’t make it so technical, that only the nerds can listen. It’s kind of in the middle of the road approach, where folks that are more on the business side can listen to it, and gain good insights, as well as the folks that are more technical. So, that’s been something that has been fun to do so far, and we’ll certainly continue that. But, we’ve got big plans for Compliance Unfiltered in 22 and beyond. So for the listeners, do us a favor, tell folks we’re out here, and that we’re doing this and whatnot. Hopefully, you’ve been enjoying the ride so far, we’ll continue it forward. But, yeah, let people know about this.
It’s actually been neat Todd, we have people that keep hitting us up. And one of the things that we like to ask is, how did you hear about us? Some pretty cool people from different organizations, literally bumped into TCT because they were listening to the podcast. So it’s just really neat seeing it come together, and seeing it take shape. I’m really excited. Likewise, likewise.
Also for the listeners out there, if there are any topics that you’d like us to cover, please feel free to reach out. There’s a variety of different ways that you can find us. Compliance Unfiltered at TotalComplianceTracking.com. You can also reach out to us via your social medias, Twitter and Instagram at compliance sucks. Thank you very much. We appreciate you and look forward to seeing you in a successful and fruitful 2022.
Well, that’s all the time we have for this episode of Compliance Unfiltered. I’m Todd Coshow. And I’m Adam Goslin. Hope we helped to get you fired up to make your compliance suck less.